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Post  Retro-Specd on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:00 pm

Just doing a bit of market research into which panels are and are not easily available for elfs/hornets.
We are a small company specialising in restoration and customising of classic and retro cars and also produce bespoke/custom panel work.
Using old school techniques and machinery we can reproduce most panels to order.

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Post  Red Riley on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:53 pm

Rear wings
Front panel
Boot slam panel
Rear valance
Boot lid and bonnet

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Post  David2010 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:06 pm



ESPECIALLY - REAR VALANCE - (The rocking-horse poo item i.e as scarce as).

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Post  humph on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:43 pm

Welcome to the register, I have come across your company a few times in Retro Cars, great magazine.

Bonnet & Boot lids turn up reasonably regularly on ebay in varying states.

Repro rear valances can be had from one seller on ebay, but these are rare & expensive.

Panels can be bought to convert a Mini front panel into a Elf/Hornet item, but this invloves cutting and welding.

Same seller does the boot floor extension piece.

Rear wings don't seem to be available anywhere.

Boot slam panel the same.

Doors are different to Mini and not available.




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Post  Retro-Specd on Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:20 am

Thanks for all of the input. I have been in the mini scene for about 20 years and always wanted an elf/hornet, managed to get one last year in fairly good condition but other projects (dare I say it, mk1 Golf Gti's) have taken priority. Its come to the point where I am now looking into sourcing parts for the elf and hence my question.

From the original panel work I think we should be able to make up some good quality replica panels, this is more my dads speciality as he does all of the old school panel work, making one off pieces for vintage trucks, cars and the such like.

Will have a look into this and come back with some budgetary prices and see what the interest is like. As you can appreciate, these will be hand produced panels so will take some work.

Will get some photos of the elf on here as soon as we get underway. Unfortunately the engine was missing, have sourced another from the same year but not correct engine number of course, so tempted to go for the modified look, nothing that cant be returned back to original though.

Thanks once again,
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Post  1071kev on Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:53 pm

Hi Andy, bonnets often need repairs at the front corners so a repair section for each corner would be good. Also repair sections for the rear wings where they meet the boot floor extension / valance. Not everyone wants to replace a complete bonnet or rear wing if it can be easily repaired.
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Post  miniswede on Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:21 pm

humph wrote:Welcome to the register, I have come across your company a few times in Retro Cars, great magazine.

Bonnet & Boot lids turn up reasonably regularly on ebay in varying states.

Repro rear valances can be had from one seller on ebay, but these are rare & expensive.

Panels can be bought to convert a Mini front panel into a Elf/Hornet item, but this invloves cutting and welding.

Same seller does the boot floor extension piece.

Rear wings don't seem to be available anywhere.

Boot slam panel the same.

Doors are different to Mini and not available.




can you please explain for me what the difference betwen mini and Riley doors are ?????????
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Post  humph on Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:07 am

Obviously you have two types of Riley door (the same with Mini), the external hinge & internal hinge type. I'm not sure whether or not the difference is on both types of door. As far as I'm aware the locks are in a different location on the Elf/Hornets when compared to the Mini. I can't say I've compared the doors on my Elf & Mini, but if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.

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Post  Red Riley on Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:35 am

As far as I can figure, the doors are unique, at least the ones with rollup windows for sure. Since the Elf/Hornet got internal hinged doors and rollups in 1966, ahead of the Mini, those years were unique to the Elf/Hornet. My understanding is that the rollup mechanism, door locks, hinges, and door skins are all different from the Mini. I believe the doors are also shorter and I think the bottom corners might be a different shape.

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Post  David2010 on Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:25 pm

I contacted one of Ireland's foremost Mini restorers - Shane O'Brien earlier this morning seeking clarification on Mini doors generally and on their inter-changeability in particular. He confirms that there were 3 different Mini doors.

Type #1 : External Hinged door = fitted Mark I Minis & Mark I & Mark II Elfs & Hornets :
Type #2 : Internal Hinged door (introduced 1966) was unique to Mark III Elfs & Hornets :
Type #3 : Internal Hinged door (introduced 1968) was unique to Mark II (& onwards) Minis (This door won't fit Mark III Elfs or Hornets) :

Hope I interpreted all that Shane said correctly !
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Post  miniswede on Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:50 pm

it was new to me that mk III doors not are the same as on the mini.
I have just fited to mini doors on my mk II
and I found no diference. just as you said. luckely because the doors are in perfekt condition.
thanks for info
something to think about if someone wants to renovate a mk III
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