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Post  Stuie.91 on Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:07 pm

Hello everyone well I said I would start a project thread for my Dad and as we have done a few bits to her to tidy her up. The entire car is going to be stripped back to bare metal. And resprayed we are thinking Persian Blue, with powder blue interior and carpet. My dads first car was blue and it seems to be his favourite colours for Elfs aswell.



This is her, we got it of Minifix who were selling it here in Dublin, selling it as a project as it had seemed to be sitting up for a few years and neglected by the previous owner. As you can see she has been painted before BRG which I don't really like and the lovely red interior was dyed from Red to Black. Ruined it really, I think originally it was like Ali's elf'd Faun Brown with the lovely red interior.

Being laid up has'nt been good to her. So we have bought replacement sills, two front floor pans, 2 A-panels and boot lid as they are all rotten.

Heres the interior.




so to get the last of the show season over here out of her mainly Dunboyne Motor Spirit we have redone the Steering wheel, interior vent, tidied up the carpet, and cut back all the dead paint with a mop to give it some sort of shine again.







The ran is running great with no crunches so when i drop the subframes we will refeshen up engine with paint and new seals.

We also have started the dash sourcing veener was hard so only re applying it this week so will add more photos later

Anyway she currently looks like this great improvement on when we bought her.

Inside looks nearly new with repainted steering wheel, carpet pity the dash was'nt finsihed but will add more updates soon



And outside the paint after being cut with compound has got its shine back

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irish elf owners

Post  shelly20 on Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:46 am

hi stuie,jason here from wexford,good to see you have made a start on the old girl.

did paul fix the hydroslastic on it,when he sent me picks she was well down on 1 side,did you fix it,or did he??

il watch the threads as they come.

be good to make contact.

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1968 Elf

Post  Stuie.91 on Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:46 pm

Hi jason yeah would be good to make contact are you heading to Dunboyne at the weekend? was good day last year. Should organize something yeah can see all the cars then. Yeah the suspension had collapsed on one side alright so Paul took the Hydro out and went to dry set up. is nice to drive now even still think the ride is better on dry then standard Mini. There has been more progress with the dash it is re veneered will add photos soon.

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1968 Elf Mk.3

Post  David2010 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:04 pm

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Hi Guys,
Hope to meet you both at Dunboyne next Sunday 29th.
As I sold my '63 Elf & '66 Hornet last April, I shall be driving my '65 Morris Mini Cooper.
I'm entered for the Parade Laps Session as car no.24.
Make yourselves known to me or my co-pilot Ray next Sunday.
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hi lads

Post  shelly20 on Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:06 am

hi lads,i don't think im going to make dunboyne. something or some one has other plans for the weekend.

sure we will meet up for a chat soon I hope.

thanks jay:D 

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Post  Coco_ChanElf on Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:53 pm

Was great to see this project in the flesh today, has great potential and I know you guys have the stamina to see it through. Will watch progress with interest!
Stay in touch! Ali

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Post  Jared Mk3 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:51 pm

This looks like it'll be a good project - good luck! I'm liking the look of that Clubbie Estate too.
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we need up dates

Post  shelly20 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:25 pm

hi, any up dates on this green machine???Very Happy 

jay in wexford

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Strip down has begun

Post  Stuie.91 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Finally this week myself and Dad have started to strip the Elf for its rebuild.

So interior is out, we stripped the front half of the wiring loom and is out of the car, Took off all the lights and stuff from the front. Also started to take engine bay apart.

So wiper motor, voltage stabiliser, alternator, Radiator is out. Going to take then engine and gearbox out this week aswell









Have the interior ordered from Newton Commercial as well noticed a few more rust spots then first thought but we have a good welder/ painter so when it comes back will be nearly nicer then the day it left factory in 1968.

Have decided on Persian Blue/Snowberry white combination for exterior colour. My Suspicions were confirmed and BRG was a repaint some years ago. We believe the original colour was Faun Brown/Cream roof. Like Ali's Elf but are looking forward to the blue think it really suits the car and I am yet to see a Blue elf at any show here in Ireland.

More updates soon.
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Post  Alanmondial on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:07 pm

Best of luck with the rebuild Stuart. I've work to do on my one as well so I look forward to seeing how you get on.

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great to see a start

Post  shelly20 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:36 pm

hi,great to see a start being made,ill keep a eye on your threads.

jay wexford

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Persian Blue / Snowberry White Elf :

Post  David2010 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:52 am


I haven't ever seen that precise shade of Blue & White Elf in Ireland Stuart ( & I think that colour combination is pretty unusual for an Elf anywhere else.)
However, there is one example whose photo appears from time to time in the Classic Retro Rally Magazine " Old Stager " which is
a U.K. publication with 6 issues per year (and to which I am a subscriber). The Elf in question competes in a number of Retro rallies
in most years in the U.K. - and as it is a very photogenic Mini - it gets photographed more than most.
I have asked this magazine's editor to please e-mail me a photo & to permit me to post it here.
Will let you know what develops ! (no pun intended).
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The Dash

Post  Stuie.91 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:14 pm

Yeah David I came across this below which where all the colour combinations Hornets/ Elfs came in while on the web before.

Here you go... body colours first followed by roof colour

ELF MK1

Florentine Blue (BU7)/Old English White (WT3)
Cumberland Green (GN35)/OEW
Porcelain Green/OEW
Birch Grey (GR3)/OEW
Yukon Grey (GR7)/Birch Grey
Damask Red (RD5)/Whitehall Beige (BG4)
Chartreuse Yellow (YL2)/Florentine Blue (BU5)

HORNET MK1

Whitehall Beige/Florentine Blue (BU7)
Iris Blue (BU12)/OEW
Island Green (GN6)/OEW
Birch Grey/Yukon Grey
Yukon Grey/OEW
Pale Ivory (YL1)/Damask Red

ELF MK2

Arianca Beige (BG13)/Pale Ivory
Florentine Blue(BU7)/Florentine Blue (BU7)
Cumberland Green/OEW
Birch Grey/OEW
Yukon Grey/Birch Grey
Damask Red/Whitehall Beige (BG4)
Chartreuse Yellow/Florentine Blue (BU7)

HORNET MK2

Whitehall Beige/Florentine Blue (BU7)
Iris Blue/OEW
Glen Green (GN40)/Spruce Green (GN13)
Island Green/OEW
Birch Grey/Yukon Grey
Yukon Grey/OEW
Pale Ivory/Damask Red
Maroon B(RD23)/Toga White (WT5)
Toga White/Damask Red

ELF MK3

Arianca Beige/Pale Ivory
Florentine Blue/OEW. BU7
Persian Blue (BN39)/Snowberry White (WT4)
Fawn Brown (RD24)/Pale Ivory
Birch Grey/OEW
Birch Grey/Snowberry White
Yukon Grey/Birch Grey
Yukon Grey/Snowberry White
Damask Red/Whitehall Beige
Cumberland Green/OEW
Cumberland Green/Snowberry White
Peony Red (RD29)/Whitehall Beige
Sable (RD30)/Pale Ivory
Snowberry White/Snowberry White

HORNET MK3

Everglade Green (GN42)/Snowberry White
Glen Green/Spruce Green
Birch Grey/Yukon Grey
Cumulus Grey (GR29)/Yukon Grey
Maroon B/Toga White
Maroon B/Snowberry White
Snowberry White/Snowberry White
Snowberry White/Trafalgar Blue (BU37)
Snowberry White/Damask Red
Snowberry White/Peony Red
Toga White/Damask Red
Toga White/Trafalgar Blue


Think I may have found it on this website forum or riley motor club it is good to know and where I came across the Persian Blue combination. I also found it quiet hard to get any photos or a blue elf so it must have been a rare combination but I think it really suits the car. I believe it is something like this below. I found this on an Ebay ad some time ago and think it is Persin Blue





Any here are some snaps of the dash it was in a bad state as you can see from earlier pictures but Dad got new veener and repaired any small lumps or chips that it had and it looks as good as new. I really think he should do this on a ongoing basis as he has a knack for it.







This was some spare veener trying to decide what colour to stain the dash. Think Oak may look will with the Blue Interior
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lovely dash work

Post  shelly20 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:01 am

hi jay here again,love the re veneering job,and a nice choice of stain.

also your choice of colour is nice,my 2 would be a slightly lighter blue,but not to far off your pictured car. light blue seats also.

il have to put up a picture or 2.

yes your dad has the nack' of doing the woodwork.

keep us posted

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Persian Blue / Snowberry White 1964 Rally Elf :

Post  David2010 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:19 pm


David2010 wrote:

I haven't ever seen that precise shade of Blue & White Elf in Ireland Stuart ( & I think that colour combination is pretty unusual for an Elf anywhere else.)
However, there is one example whose photo appears from time to time in the Classic Retro Rally Magazine " Old Stager " which is
a U.K. publication with 6 issues per year (and to which I am a subscriber). The Elf in question competes in a number of Retro rallies
in most years in the U.K. - and as it is a very photogenic Mini - it gets photographed more than most.
I have asked this magazine's editor to please e-mail me a photo & to permit me to post it here.
Will let you know what develops ! (no pun intended).  
Hi Stuart,
After a lot of digging I think I may have that photo for you.
Apologies for not very good quality but many thanks to Simon Marks who took the picture(s) and to the " Old Stager " Magazine April/May 2008 edition. This car is owned and driven by a lady - Ali Green & her co-driver on this occasion was Ann Locks.
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colours of blmc cars

Post  shelly20 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:41 pm

was there 2 types of blue/white combo's in the elf,mine are both this shade of blue,1 maybe a bit darker,and the other abit like baby blue,both have snowberry and old English wite roofs.

il have to get pics up.

when there in the light there very close in colour,they are the same as in the pictures shown above.

the larger pictures show the elf in what id say was pagent blue,a colour a lot of mini citys were painted around 1979/80/81.

keep us posted on every move.

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Post  Alanmondial on Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:37 pm

Hi Stuart, nice to meet you today. Best of luck with the restoration. I look forward to following your progress.

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Post  Stuie.91 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:22 pm

Yeah Jay as far as I know there was Florentine Blue/OEW and Persian Blue/Snowberry white.

Nice to meet you aswell Alan was down in Minifix today and see your car is a bit sick.

More updates

Finally got the engine out today and went off to the Welder and Painter today. Thanks to James and Paul with engine crane and everything.



this will be fun to clean



and off to the welder



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Post  Alanmondial on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:13 am

Hi Stuart, yes unfortunately the Cooper is very sick. Nasty electrical problem somewhere. I spent a week and a half trying to find it with no luck. Time to admit defeat and hand it over to the experts (Paul and James). So both the Cooper and the Elf are there now. I'm on the lookout for a Mini Estate to buy to drive while both cars are being finished.

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engine making the great escape

Post  shelly20 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:50 am

hi stuie,yea,so it may look like I have 1 of each of those colours,il have to get the twins out of the shed for a photo shoot.

wow,your moving at a fast pace on the elf,stripped and engineless in a matter of a couple of weeks.

who is doing the painting and bodywork?

keep up the fotos,and look forward to her return:D .

jay

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The Welding Paint

Post  Stuie.91 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:54 pm

Yeah get them out for a photo shoot would be great to see them. Yeah am eager enough to get going on it hoping to take it to IMM Next year. Have a touch of OCD I think cause I like to get things done yesterday. Tony who owns Trimtech is doing the paint and welding. He has had quiet a few minis down there recently. He is a great painter it come back flawless they take the same time to paint a small car as a big one so no runs in the paint. He also has a welder down there who is phenomenal seems to be able to fix everything you give him. He remade a set of Clubby estate doors and them look better then new. Will keep you posted

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Welding updates

Post  Stuie.91 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:50 pm

Was up at Trimtech today to collect the subframes and the glass. Car is coming along great the passenger side is completely finished, new inner and outer sills are on aswell as a-panels, footwell and few repairs on the wings. He has started on the rear on the car repaired all around the floor and bootlid. When the home made box section sills were taken off there was nothing there apparently. See photos below.







New sills


old sills or what was left of them behind the box section











will get few snaps up of the wheels and subframes before and after powder coating
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stunning work

Post  shelly20 on Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:23 am

wow there is some fine work going on there:D 

knew she had boxy sills,but scary what was hidden behind them.

the body man seems to know what he is up to.

look forward to seeing more.

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Interior has arrived

Post  Stuie.91 on Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:28 am

Got a few bits from Newton today. Carpet, Headlining, visors etc. Really like the Blue carpet think will be nice colour combination with the paint. Also I dropped the Subframes and wheels down to the powder coater. Threw the spare wheel out of the clubby estate in aswell never liked the yellow colour it was painted by previous owner.




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Post  soupdragon on Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:08 pm

Keep up the good work; that's going to be a nice car when it's done!
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