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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:42 pm

Come assembly time , I might just call you to give me a hand.

Three and a half hours of Easyjet and you're here.

Warm weather, cold beer and a freshly painted shell to assemble. Very Happy
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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  TONYELF on Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:43 pm

reymondos wrote:Come assembly time , I might just call you to give me a hand.

Three and a half hours of Easyjet and you're here.

Warm weather, cold beer and a freshly painted shell to assemble. Very Happy


MMMMMMMMMMM Tempting Very Happy

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  humph on Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:07 pm

I just wanted to echo the sentiments of the other guys and say how fantastic this thread is. The work being done on such a special car looks amazing. Good luck with getting it finished. Count me in for a club meet in Greece:D

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  1071kev on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:01 am

The car is looking superb. Keep up the good work. I hope you still have the original rear bumper as it's unique to your car. Can't wait to see it finished

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:20 am

The rear bumper is in really sorry state. I do not know if it can be saved. Actually I am going to a chrome guy today to get a verdict.
I have got a spare Elf rear bumper, so if will have to fit that if I can't save the old one.

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Post  automini on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:00 am

i like many others here have owned minis for years, i had my first mini before i could even drive at 16..
I have read this arcticle with increased fascination and this really is an amazing find , you are doing a superb job and its great you are sharing the experience and photos !

One question , did the car have a special headliner as well or was this stock bmc mini / elf


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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:06 pm

It had a two piece metal framed headlining. The fabric was perforated and pale blue in colour, but it might have been changed.
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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  mac on Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:12 pm

Just to say what a fantastic job you are doing a true credit to you, keep the pics and information coming.
Best wishes
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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:09 pm

Today I took most of the chromework to a chrome guy. The rear bumper is beyond repair. I have a spare Elf rear bumper and will use that one. The front is too good to re-chrome but the rest will be nice and shiny in a few days time.





While preparing the rear brakes I noticed that the previous brake cylinders were too big for the backplate and were actually mounted at an angle!!!



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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  TONYELF on Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:10 pm

John. evlin64 has given us a link to a firm in Wembley who claim to be able to restore the bumper.

http://www.colonnademetal.com/4.html.


Repair Service: Bumper Bars: Bumpers are the most common items to be found in need of
some attention. Over the years they corrode, and when involved in a collision
can literally fall to pieces. With the help of the heavy copper tank, holes can be
filled and dents and twists re-shaped giving an overall finish that should be
superior to when they first came off the production line.
Occasionally bumpers are too rotten or too badly damaged for repair. If a
replacement original cannot be found, the bumper can be passed to our metal
workers who are able to reproduce accurate copies.


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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  catmint on Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:08 pm

TONYELF wrote:Sounds as if there is enough of us to charter a boat or plane! Very Happy

Get a bus booked with Al - shame they don't have red double deckers any more, Hoh sorry Cliff already did that Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  Big_Al_Smith on Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:38 pm

been far too long since someone made a bus joke!!!!! Laughing

E/H Reg European tour to Greece anyone???????
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Post  discoman41 on Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:25 pm

Yes please! Just the ticket Al! (Sorry! Weak bus joke there!)

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  The Adder on Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:36 pm

Stunned Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised

Last time I had a look at this thread was a couple of months ago, and I foolishly assumed that it would be progressing at the normal rate (slowly) Exclamation

What a fantastic little car and a sublime restoration job! Give me a shout when it comes to rebuild time, I work for beer, pies and a reasonably clean floor to sleep on Wink

On the bus jokes front, I'm a qualified PVC driver, and I can get hold of red 'decker if we need one for a club trip Wink

Keep up the amazing work and you'll end up with a truly unique little car Very Happy

All the best.

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  Big_Al_Smith on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:38 pm

PVC driver? sounds a little kinky!!! Laughing
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Post  The Adder on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Oooooh Eeerrr Wink
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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:33 pm

The front seats are ready to be painted!!!!!!

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:38 am

I tried some of the chromework on the car yesterday to see how they fit and make holes before it gets painted.

The C-pillar decoration is handmade in solid brass. Note how different the two pieces are. They polished out beautifully. Now they will be chrome plated.









The rear lights also fitted perfectly. I can't wait to fit them to the painted shell!!!!





I also received the new wiring Loom from autosparks.



On the side I started a project in 1/43 scale to make a model of my car. Unfortunately I will have to "slaughter 3 models. A Jolly Fiat for the seats, tyres and maybe some chromework, a Hornet for the body from the A-pillar and back and a Mini for the front.









It actually looks very pretty as a pillarless coupe. If the roof was lowered a tad it would look positively rakish.



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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:17 pm

Getting there, slowly....



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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  TONYELF on Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:02 pm

Looks great so far!

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:47 pm

Advice and ideas needed!!!!!

I am thinking of what to do with the interior of my beach car. Unfortunately Bob Hart's car is another prototype and has a three instrument black dashboard.

The other colour pictures of cars all seem wrong to me.






I only have a very low resolution photo of my car with sir Alec blocking part of the interior



and good B/W promo picture of a production Beach car.



When I got the car it was all covered or painted in baby blue.







So the questions are....

1) What colour should the dash, columns and headlining be?
2) What is the most period correct type of material?
3) Should I cover the top and bottom dashrail?
4) What is your opinion on Newton Commercial products?

Thank you.
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Post  discoman41 on Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:51 pm

Hi John,

I would imagine the whole shell was "dipped" and so all of the exposed body inside the car would have been the same colour as the outside I am guessing.

With it being a beach car, would it have had roof lining??? If so, I imagine it would have been the standard cream headlining - which you can quite rightly get from Newton Commercial. All of their products are quality but not cheap!

I don't imagine your car would have had a full length wooden dash (a la Elf), probably just the bog standard Mini centre binnacle pod. Probably just the white/cream pod housing as per the early mini's. The glove compartment lining would look good matching the roof lining, if it were mine I'd be tempted not to cover the dash rails, just leave them body colour.

These are just my opinions though, John.

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  TONYELF on Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:15 pm

I agree with Jason on the dash rail to leave it in the body paint, A covered rail would fade quickly in the sun (whatever that is!)and may even wrinkle in the heat?

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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  reymondos on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:53 pm

This will be a long ....

detailed photos of the dash and interior of my beach car.

first of all the pale blue perforated headlining







The rear parcel shelf is unique. Its a big pice of wood covered with a little foam an pale blue vinyl. Note the cutouts for the hinge bolts of the luggage door.









This is the inner covers of the side panel with the sharkfin. Note the way the paint has pealed of the white piping....







The top dash rail. There is a strip of darker blue vinyl(almost a perfect match to the body colour) glued underneath the pale blue vinyl. It looks like it was used as a template. Very dubious.







These are the sheet metal pieces that covered the A-pillars and the side of the dash. I have never seen these before. Note how there body coloured vinyl is present again on the inside.







I found a nearly perfect match for the vinyl at Bingley Hall.



The binnacle surround is in a pretty sorry state....







and so is the dashboard "floor"





This is the insulating material found under the carpets and behind the dash



Now. The evidence that the interior has been re-trimed and painted:

1) perforated roof lining was not used in period Minis

2) The paint peeling off the white piping of the side panel

3) the pieces of dark blue vinyl found behind pieces of trim.

4) the way some pieces of vinyl have been stapled to the cardboard look un-factory like.
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Re: Not exactly a n Elf/Hornet, but close

Post  catmint on Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:32 am

Hi John

You are making fantastic progress (Tis a few weeks since I have been on here due to work)

It is a long shot, but have you been in touch with the archives at gaydon - as well as the usual chassis numbers and such, they also hold a massive collection of other documentation and more importantly photographs - there may be a colour one of your car there. They have far more photos than what will ever appear in the books and articles because they charge a vast amount for copyright fees if you want to publish anything. If you can, speak to Richard (if he is still there, he is very helpful and knowledgeable)

The A panel steel trim - I am pretty sure our 62' 850 Super has similar, but they are covered in black vinyl

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